Mike Gold, Redwire’s President of Civil and International Space Business, recently joined Rob Finnerty on Newsmax to discuss NASA beating China to the Moon, American leadership in space generally, and how Secretary of Transportation and Interim Administrator Sean Duffy is the ideal leader to ensure that the U.S. never comes in second.

“The countries and companies that are the first to return to the Moon will learn how to harness its resources, and develop new technologies in the endeavor, ultimately making them the economic and national security leaders of the future.”

Watch the full interview below: